tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post1454752095534728873..comments2019-04-03T17:22:29.295-04:00Comments on 24 and prolife: Intentionally NFPJenellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13814676104012182863noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-77116793141427554412009-12-02T07:34:38.948-05:002009-12-02T07:34:38.948-05:00Rae I completely agree. Husbands can be a bit more...Rae I completely agree. Husbands can be a bit more level headed and have a better discernment process especially when in the fertile phase and the woman's body is distracting her with purely biological cuesJenellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814676104012182863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-77943570933601208592009-12-02T04:15:08.157-05:002009-12-02T04:15:08.157-05:00Great post! I must admit that I am a bit horrified...Great post! I must admit that I am a bit horrified at all of the people who go on and on about how NFP is overused (because we know how all newlyweds are so eager to abstain for less than serious reasons!) and make women question everything about using NFP. It seems quite odd to set oneself up as a judge for something the Church has said is for a couple to discern, and to interfere with marriage by encouraging women to question and doubt what their husbands have already discerned is correct. <br /><br />I am not saying that the husband is supposed to decide alone, but it is so odd that the "traditionalists" are the ones undermining the husband's role in decision making by causing the wife to challenge his view.Raehttp://nowealthbutlife.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-71334146973581610832009-12-01T07:46:55.225-05:002009-12-01T07:46:55.225-05:00oh okay...I know what priest you are talking about...oh okay...I know what priest you are talking about now and like I said, I don't agree with that idea either and your comment makes much more sense now! I didn't listen to the whole homily but I did see that postJenellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814676104012182863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-4802707275615390752009-11-30T19:16:15.213-05:002009-11-30T19:16:15.213-05:00haha! i loved your comment tiphanie. i know my vi...haha! i loved your comment tiphanie. i know my vision is the right one too ;P<br /><br />and jenelle, sorry i should have clarified, but i was talking about the nfpworks discussion and the priest that she was referring to. did you listen to his homily? anyway, that's the priest i was talking about, although that stinks about yours too!!alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607033334640471566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-6491572063198684542009-11-30T17:46:26.986-05:002009-11-30T17:46:26.986-05:00Interesting comments TL. I know the questions are...Interesting comments TL. I know the questions are tricky and they are different for everyone. It is true that you can be selfish in wanting OR not wanting children. I guess my point on that question was that I should be thinking about the whole family (including future children) and not just what I want at the moment.Jenellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814676104012182863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-57510864683751551222009-11-30T17:31:00.435-05:002009-11-30T17:31:00.435-05:00I think the question of having a child and when is...I think the question of having a child and when is very personal and complex. I like your guideline questions but the "am I selfish?" is a very tricky one. <br />>Is my reason selfish? I say this to remind myself that I should be making the decision based on what is best for my family and future children. If it is just because I want something or don't want something, then I am not thinking about family.<<br /><br />What is the best for my family? That is the tricky question for me. Is my desire to have a kid selfish? Am I trying to push an idea on Dh? Sometimes I think it is his best interest to open up to life and let go of controlling everything and having luxurious stuff he likes, but sometimes I wonder I'm not just imposing MY vision of what is best, when he has a different one.. <br />I think my guideline is Deut 30, 19-20:<br />>> I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. >> <br /> Choose life :) SOmetimes choosing life means to not add more to the stress burden of DH, or to the physical health of mommy, but most of the time, I hope I will choose life. And I pray that DH will come to embrace MY vision. A little selfish, but it's ok, my vision is better ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-20915729262086992142009-11-30T16:47:11.065-05:002009-11-30T16:47:11.065-05:00Alison,
When I spoke about my priest, I meant more...Alison,<br />When I spoke about my priest, I meant more that he didn't think it necessary to go by the Church's view and that some couples aren't "mature enough" to be in line with church teaching. His point was alluding more toward contraception than a honeymoon baby although I agree with you that no one should say a couple MUST have kids right awayJenellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814676104012182863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-22043937414376631202009-11-30T14:43:45.392-05:002009-11-30T14:43:45.392-05:00I liked this too! my husband and I have been talki...I liked this too! my husband and I have been talking about this recently too after I told him about that priest and HIS response was that he actually thinks its morally wrong to say that a newly married couple MUST have kids! (as wrong as saying that they shouldn't) The idea being that if you knew that that first year of marriage was foundational to the development of a marital relationship, wouldn't you want it to be as strong as possible? To advise people that they must not postpone having children can actually be detrimental. <br />I thought it was an interesting point, but on the whole I'm glad to always have another side to think about since I'm so used to holding the controversial opinion!alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607033334640471566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615374466622013475.post-84937141452461743142009-11-30T13:40:28.503-05:002009-11-30T13:40:28.503-05:00Jenelle,
I think your questions are a great guide....Jenelle,<br />I think your questions are a great guide. I agree that it can be SO hard to try to discern how "just/grave/serious" your reasons are. For a couple months there I was really concerned that our reasons weren't serious enough. After a lot of time in prayer and some discussion with my husband (who has felt all along that our reasons are good), I realized our reasons were in fact valid at that time. <br /><br />Just this month, though, I've started to question that again. (The ongoing debate hasn't helped!) Is it so important to postpone <i>now</i> if we don't plan on doing so 2 or 4 months from now? Agh! Suffice to say, I will be taking your questions to heart :)That Married Couplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07363886412589745900noreply@blogger.com